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Moving up from 6 to 5 is brutal!  I did that last season and finished 11th, ahead of another team that got shoved up with me.  Of course, this season I've dropped down to 6 again, and Wichita is all but running the show.  The worst bit for you, Craig, is that if you go from 6 to 5 to 6 to 5, next season you'll finish high in 6th, which is bad for the draft!

I've done some math and found that the mid-grade seats pay off fastest in purchases of 500.  YMMV, of course.

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RobStarliner schrieb:

I've done some math and found that the mid-grade seats pay off fastest in purchases of 500.  YMMV, of course.

Maybe you want to calculate this once more wink

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Ok. Looking at ticket prices. How do they work. (I know that people pay to watch the game ) should the ticket prices go up as you do better in the comp. Should they also go up if you have more stadium peripherals.  What is a good starting point. approximately.

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Why is 500 seat bunches not the best? If not then what would be the most efficient?

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tomrbg schrieb:

Maybe you want to calculate this once more wink

Turns out, MMMV.  Higher prices at higher levels throw it, and I haven't even ventured into a higher return from a higher ticket price without a sellout crowd.  Somebody punch my ticket for the failboat?

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You want to have a 0/20.000/5.000 stadium with all periphery on level 5 as fast as possible. The earnings you may have at the moment are not as important as getting the construction done as fast as possible, before player's wages increase to a level that won't allow you further construction works. So you should build a few hundred seats very fast in your first season to increase ticket earnings, but  then build as many seats per day as possible. 500 seats is not the fastest option.

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Interested - How did you choose the 0/20k/5k?  Is that a best balance of a maximum seat quantity?

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RobStarliner schrieb:

Interested - How did you choose the 0/20k/5k?  Is that a best balance of a maximum seat quantity?

Both maximum seat quantity and maximum ticket sales revenue.

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And you can´t have more than 5.000 VIP seats.

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Haven't been on the forum for a while. Be3n developing my stadium. Just a quick question,  what price does people set their tickets prices at? Also what governs ticket prices? I have lowered mine a bit but still not hitting capacity.

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It depends on your division and some other things like stadium periphery, success in the running season and the price of course.
So you can´t get 10 000 people in division 7 or 8. You could come close to 10 000 in division 6 and reach 15 000 in division 5. If you like you can check out the attendance report for each division at the bottom of the league page. If there are teams in your division with a higher number, you may lower your prices or build a better periphery. But more poeple in you arena would not be a guarantee for a higher income. You need to find a balance between price and attendance to reach the max.

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ticket prices are a bit of a secret. Most managers won't talk about their prices, as they are one of the very few features without any published "documentation" so far. Finding the best price is a very important and difficult task every manager has to go through on his own.

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Hi guys. currently undertaking a course and may go through a period (about a week) where i can't get on. Does anyone know if there is a holiday mode or what is the maximum time i can get away with not logging on until my account is cancelled.

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Yes, just go to settings.
(Click on this graphic http://www.eiszeit-manager.de/buero/images/icons/settings.png on the office site.)

Then the 2nd box on the right side (Vacationmode), just activate it and you're good to go smile

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Haven't posted on here for a while. Getting close to 20,000 seating and i think my team is good enough to consistently stay in div 5.

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craig_martin00 schrieb:

Haven't posted on here for a while. Getting close to 20,000 seating and i think my team is good enough to consistently stay in div 5.

Good job smile Don't stop investing as much money as possible in your stadion's infrasturcture (trafic, display, food).

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Got all lvl 3 at the moment and one lvl 4 on the way. I'm guessing that it helps fill the stadium.

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craig_martin00 schrieb:

Got all lvl 3 at the moment and one lvl 4 on the way. I'm guessing that it helps fill the stadium.

sure it will help. Display and trafic will fill the stadium, food store won't, but it will earn money for your team smile

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craig_martin00 schrieb:

Got all lvl 3 at the moment and one lvl 4 on the way. I'm guessing that it helps fill the stadium.

I think waiting for lvl 5 and not to build lvl 4 will save a lot of a) money and therefore b) time. Check and calculate this!

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Raszagal schrieb:
craig_martin00 schrieb:

Got all lvl 3 at the moment and one lvl 4 on the way. I'm guessing that it helps fill the stadium.

I think waiting for lvl 5 and not to build lvl 4 will save a lot of a) money and therefore b) time. Check and calculate this!

I'd like to see your calculation smile

In some cases, skipping one stage might be helpful. I doubt skipping a stage 4 construction would be a good idea, but I may be wrong. Do you have an example with real data?

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Here it is:


Lets say Saison 0 is our start. You have got 5 Mio.

First Way: Build Lvl 4
Lvl 4 is built after 30 days - lets say we start building one day before Saison 0, then we get a better sponsor for Saison 1. The difference between Lvl 3 and 4 are about 29.000€ per home game - so 11 times in a season --> 319k€ + the Bonus at the beginning which is about 42k€ --> round about 360 k€ per season (maybe 380k€-400k€ if you are in PO/PD, but I will not handle with things you can hardly calculate...)

Second Way: Save the money...


Then the only question is: What do you earn in one season (I call it money per season - mps) after subtracting all costs?

You can build Lvl 5 after building Lvl 4, if
x * mps + (x - 1) * 360 k€ = 10 Mio€

You can build Lvl 5 without building Lvl 4, if
y * mps + 5Mio€ = 10 Mio€

If you now set x=y then you get the mps for which the both season times are equal --> mps = 336.000€

If you earn more money per Season, Lvl 5 without building Lvl 4 is more efficient, if you earn less, you should build Lvl 4... One example: You get 1 Mio per season, then x = 7,6 seasons but y = 5 seasons...!

I did not consider special events:
PO/PD should tend to save money, because the money from the visitors and gastro should be extremely more than just the additional 29k€ due to the sponsor
Transfers: it belongs to you: get money due to transfers will tend to build no Lvl 4, spend money for transfers will tend to build Lvl 4


--> I think everyone can save more than 336k€ per Season if he/she wants to save it. Therefore I say: Do not build Lvl 4! But it is up to everyone himself/herself!


PS: I am very excited if you varify or deny the calculation smile

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Who knows, how is possible to add new country/nation? I prefer represent Estonian club, but at the moment I must play for my nearest neighbors.

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k6urik schrieb:

Who knows, how is possible to add new country/nation? I prefer represent Estonian club, but at the moment I must play for my nearest neighbors.

Hey, this isn't possible right now. There are 16 countries to choose from but Estonia isn't one of them.
There are players from other countries though. The admin of the game, Brice (Team ID 20), at times issues challenges where you can "win" a player of your choice. You then get to choose name, country and even the look of the player (I once had a player from Eritrea). You may want to send Brice a message to make sure you don't miss these opportunities.

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Datsjuk4ever schrieb:
k6urik schrieb:

Who knows, how is possible to add new country/nation? I prefer represent Estonian club, but at the moment I must play for my nearest neighbors.

Hey, this isn't possible right now. There are 16 countries to choose from but Estonia isn't one of them.
There are players from other countries though. The admin of the game, Brice (Team ID 20), at times issues challenges where you can "win" a player of your choice. You then get to choose name, country and even the look of the player (I once had a player from Eritrea). You may want to send Brice a message to make sure you don't miss these opportunities.


Your information was very helpful. I'm working with it.
Thank You!

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Hey, earlier on this page there is a guide that you should expand your stadium to 0 / 20 000 / 5000
Meaning 0 standing places
20 000 seats
5 000 VIP seats. If I have "made the mistake" of building standing sections can I demolish those after they are ready or what?

How much money do I lose long term if I have made standing places and have to live with those? Tens of thousands per season?

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